As a Gideon, I purchase boxes of 100 personal testaments for distribution as I am led. We hand them out without any editorializing. The words hit their mark, in hospitals, hotel rooms & on the street. Praise God!
I also buy and give out Bibles. Not in the quantities you do, but when the opportunity arises. I gave a stack to my SIL to do so as well. I guess we’re all on this list.
It looks like their surveillance is driven by credit card companies reporting purchases of Bibles to the FBI, without a warrant or subpoena. I hope you haven’t drawn their attention.
I used my debit card to purchase many Bibles, more than once. Not credit cards, (I don’t think). So if it’s limited to actual credit cards then I may not be on the list. I’m sure there are other reasons, other things they’re monitoring.
My understanding is because debit cards run through banks, which then assign SARs (a Suspicious Activity Report) if they know it was a Bible being purchased, FICen would be notified. Of course, only FICen knows for sure, but they're clamming up. Hopefully, Rep. Jim Jordan will learn more and let the public know what his committee is finding out.
The government must of forgot about the first and eighth ammendment to our constitution. Our government is a criminal enterprise that has grown out of the American peoples ability to change anything. We are slaves who need to understand we are living under a tyrannical ruling class that doesn't care about anything; consent, natural rights, or freedom of speech or movement. You should be able to purchase a bible and firearm at the same retail store.
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."
Franklin D. Roosevelt 👈 🤔
Matthew 10:26
Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
Mark 4:22
For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.
Luke 12:3
Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.
Amen!!! We who buy the bibles KNOW Who we should have reverential fear for. We need not fear what man can do to the body but fear The One who can destroy the body and the soul.
May God’s people be strong and courageous; clothed in His armour!!!
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
I often remind friends not to be content with the Bible on their phones because the government can disappear them this afternoon. I’m probably on the list of Bible owners because I own numerous translations and worse I buy Bibles to distribute to others. I’m not too concerned at this point because I’m already on their list of veterans, registered voters, gun owners and they have my DNA. I wonder if they keep a list of Koran purchasers?
I knew it was coming, I just thought we’d be closer to a one world govt and one world religion openly controlling things before we’d be under surveillance for purchasing (eventually owning) a Bible. Eventually, Bibles will be considered contraband.
I am going to buy a Bible so that I can have standing when the government attempts to harm me!! Our government must be held to the limits that our constitution places upon it.
We need to refuse to be governed by any bureaucracy that violates our constitution. Any person in government who violates our constitutional rights should be subject to criminal prosecution. Any individual should have standing if that individual is being investigated for any unconstitutional reason by the government. And, in my opinion , all of the individuals who have purchased a Bible, and are on the list of those names collected by the government because they purchased a Bible, should have standing as a group and should be able to sue the government to show cause for their actions.
I already have a well marked and worn Bible. It is time for me to buy another one!!
My understanding is that we (at Christian Action Network) can gain standing if we can have people testify that they will not purchase the Bible we offer on our website out of fear of being placed inside FICen's criminal database. That way we can show harm. I need to double-check that I'm correct on this, since it's been a couple of months since I met with legal counsel, but I think my memory is serving me correctly.
This is the wrong approach. The Founders never said citizens must suck up to government for our rights—God gives the rights and government is merely to secure them, not mete them out as they see fit. They never said the govt can plot and scheme against citizens.
This is not how it was intended, however the US government is rogue. We no longer have the ability or power to stop them. They have all the power and are using it against the people.
Yes, rogue is the word, along with tyrannical! The Chief Justice and some of the younger Justices have likely been personally threatened by Executive Branch agents, which would explain their contorted reasoning.
Whose idea was it? Who at US treasury decided purchasers of Bibles should be under criminal investigation? When did this action become official? Actions or acts similar to this are generally an idea of an individual. Find that person and bring them before the appropriate congressional committee. This is very sinister.
The Nazis burned Bibles and many others have tried to stop Christianity and Christian believers. You can track all you want HIS Kingdom and believers will prevail. As a nation have truly spiraled into a dark state of affairs. Be in pray we need it and need!
How do you know your on the list? How are they obtaining sales records. Who could this database be used to prevent the legal assistance regarding financial abuse and fraud?
You can send a Freedom of Information request to FICen to see if you're on the list. Regarding using names of Bible purchasers to prevent legal assistance, this is a question FICen refuses to disclose to Christian Action Network.
And yet, so many places won't accept cash anymore. I went to a local minor league baseball game and after placing my meal order, they wouldn't accept my cash. I had to hunt down my wife for her debit card. Of course, using a debit or credit card while purchasing a Bible will still land you on the FICen list, especially if the bank also knows you recently bought a gun or used the words MAGA in a financial transaction. I was actually hesitant to publish the article because no one seems to care about this government surveillance program. Either that, or people are too afraid to respond.
Oh yeah, it takes an effort! I might be out of the loop because I mostly buy hand-to-hand used books, and these folks do take cash, Bibles or any other books.
Makes me want to go out and buy another Bible.
It's getting harder to argue that government hasn't outgrown its mandate.
As a Gideon, I purchase boxes of 100 personal testaments for distribution as I am led. We hand them out without any editorializing. The words hit their mark, in hospitals, hotel rooms & on the street. Praise God!
I also buy and give out Bibles. Not in the quantities you do, but when the opportunity arises. I gave a stack to my SIL to do so as well. I guess we’re all on this list.
It looks like their surveillance is driven by credit card companies reporting purchases of Bibles to the FBI, without a warrant or subpoena. I hope you haven’t drawn their attention.
I used my debit card to purchase many Bibles, more than once. Not credit cards, (I don’t think). So if it’s limited to actual credit cards then I may not be on the list. I’m sure there are other reasons, other things they’re monitoring.
My understanding is because debit cards run through banks, which then assign SARs (a Suspicious Activity Report) if they know it was a Bible being purchased, FICen would be notified. Of course, only FICen knows for sure, but they're clamming up. Hopefully, Rep. Jim Jordan will learn more and let the public know what his committee is finding out.
Me too, hope people are paying attention??
The government must of forgot about the first and eighth ammendment to our constitution. Our government is a criminal enterprise that has grown out of the American peoples ability to change anything. We are slaves who need to understand we are living under a tyrannical ruling class that doesn't care about anything; consent, natural rights, or freedom of speech or movement. You should be able to purchase a bible and firearm at the same retail store.
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."
Franklin D. Roosevelt 👈 🤔
Matthew 10:26
Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
Mark 4:22
For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.
Luke 12:3
Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.
⚖️ His Justice is Coming ⚖️
Amen!!! We who buy the bibles KNOW Who we should have reverential fear for. We need not fear what man can do to the body but fear The One who can destroy the body and the soul.
May God’s people be strong and courageous; clothed in His armour!!!
Amen, we are crucified, hidden in Him…
Galatians 2:20 KJV
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Amen!
Amen. God sees all.
I often remind friends not to be content with the Bible on their phones because the government can disappear them this afternoon. I’m probably on the list of Bible owners because I own numerous translations and worse I buy Bibles to distribute to others. I’m not too concerned at this point because I’m already on their list of veterans, registered voters, gun owners and they have my DNA. I wonder if they keep a list of Koran purchasers?
Time to buy another Bible.
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Nice of them to admit that they've violated the First and fourth amendment.
When can we shut down the FBI and Treasury Departments?
Soon.
Sometimes I wonder if I've met my assigned DHS field agent, but just don't realize it.
😂
Well I do need another Bible . I only have 6 I need one more .
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I knew it was coming, I just thought we’d be closer to a one world govt and one world religion openly controlling things before we’d be under surveillance for purchasing (eventually owning) a Bible. Eventually, Bibles will be considered contraband.
Important to read The Word everyday.
If they aren’t following the law they need to be defunded.
I am going to buy a Bible so that I can have standing when the government attempts to harm me!! Our government must be held to the limits that our constitution places upon it.
We need to refuse to be governed by any bureaucracy that violates our constitution. Any person in government who violates our constitutional rights should be subject to criminal prosecution. Any individual should have standing if that individual is being investigated for any unconstitutional reason by the government. And, in my opinion , all of the individuals who have purchased a Bible, and are on the list of those names collected by the government because they purchased a Bible, should have standing as a group and should be able to sue the government to show cause for their actions.
I already have a well marked and worn Bible. It is time for me to buy another one!!
My understanding is that we (at Christian Action Network) can gain standing if we can have people testify that they will not purchase the Bible we offer on our website out of fear of being placed inside FICen's criminal database. That way we can show harm. I need to double-check that I'm correct on this, since it's been a couple of months since I met with legal counsel, but I think my memory is serving me correctly.
This is the wrong approach. The Founders never said citizens must suck up to government for our rights—God gives the rights and government is merely to secure them, not mete them out as they see fit. They never said the govt can plot and scheme against citizens.
This is not how it was intended, however the US government is rogue. We no longer have the ability or power to stop them. They have all the power and are using it against the people.
Yes, rogue is the word, along with tyrannical! The Chief Justice and some of the younger Justices have likely been personally threatened by Executive Branch agents, which would explain their contorted reasoning.
That is an interesting idea that had not crossed my mind at all. Thank you!
Whose idea was it? Who at US treasury decided purchasers of Bibles should be under criminal investigation? When did this action become official? Actions or acts similar to this are generally an idea of an individual. Find that person and bring them before the appropriate congressional committee. This is very sinister.
👑 JESUS IN KING 👑
demons LOSE WE WIN
The Nazis burned Bibles and many others have tried to stop Christianity and Christian believers. You can track all you want HIS Kingdom and believers will prevail. As a nation have truly spiraled into a dark state of affairs. Be in pray we need it and need!
How do you know your on the list? How are they obtaining sales records. Who could this database be used to prevent the legal assistance regarding financial abuse and fraud?
You can send a Freedom of Information request to FICen to see if you're on the list. Regarding using names of Bible purchasers to prevent legal assistance, this is a question FICen refuses to disclose to Christian Action Network.
Public safety message: use cash.
And yet, so many places won't accept cash anymore. I went to a local minor league baseball game and after placing my meal order, they wouldn't accept my cash. I had to hunt down my wife for her debit card. Of course, using a debit or credit card while purchasing a Bible will still land you on the FICen list, especially if the bank also knows you recently bought a gun or used the words MAGA in a financial transaction. I was actually hesitant to publish the article because no one seems to care about this government surveillance program. Either that, or people are too afraid to respond.
Well that answers one question—using a debit card is no different than a credit card as far as this list goes. I’m definitely on the list then.
Bookstores accept cash.
Oh yeah, it takes an effort! I might be out of the loop because I mostly buy hand-to-hand used books, and these folks do take cash, Bibles or any other books.
Great finds in thrift stores and yard/garage sales. I’ve found lots of great books and old Bibles.
Don’t be shocked “ Our Lord “ told us this was going to happen